. Dyer, writing in Billiards Digest: "One other detail about the pool legend - and an extremely. I just wanted to emphasize to some of the open minded around here that Houle was dead on the money with his diagnosis for this aiming thing and that old 'fraction thing' of Mosconi's has long been dead in the water. Any system based on a limited number of lines of aim will obviously not cover a wide range of shotsHi guys. First he told me to forget everything I knew about shooting pool. The quality was amazing and I can’t wait to take pics in these two piece sets. Search titles only. The blue line is the initial line up method that you would manually have come to with just eying the shot. First he told me to forget everything I knew about shooting pool. 3 angles for all shots, on any size pool table, including snooker & bar tables. Fez was also very good friends with Ralph Greenleaf who was also traveling the country with financially backed by. Nov 12, 2019 - Answers to frequently-asked questions about Hal Houle's 3-angle aiming system. Here is a description of an early version of CTE taught by Hal Houle: For a “thick hit” (a small cut angle, less than about 15°) to the left: Align the cue 1 tip to the right of the CB center through the right edge of the OB. Began instructing pool in 1945. S. That "7 fractions" stuff is total BALONEY and I have no idea where that got pulled out of. There are players that swear by them, and just as many that say they don't work. M is not exclusive but normally taught by SPF Instructors. Obviously CTE was one of them and Shiskabob was another. Teach professionals, very advanced players, and road money players. Just very different ways of seeing the two balls,. This is a no english system but with back hand english there is very little correction. . The one thing that stuck out to me was how long (in seconds) the very good players stayed at the set position before pulling the cue back to shoot. Stan has worked on the center to edge system over the past 10 years and refined it into a method called “Pro One. I was just wondering what aiming systems are geometrically correct? I've been looking into different aiming systems lately because I think it might be. Aiming ConversationAs per Hal Houle, CTE DOES NOT work with the vision center directly over the actual shot line, or NISL as Stan describes it. pj chgoInstruction & Ask the pros. every top player uses the same pro aiming system. Or at least completely new to wanting to be a damn good player. I didnt locate the photo until the first editions were already printed. As you now know, it's as simple as simple can be just like Shishkabob created by Hal Houle decades ago. " Hal's greatest joy was. I have to say that Hal Houle gave me the aiming perspective that I use about 90 percent of the time. Any videos of Jimmy from around this period, included the video cited in this thread, clearly show Jimmy pivoting into center ball from. Hal Houle had ways of explaining and doing it and we definitely know where you're coming from when his name is mentioned. Directly quoting Mr. Hal told me to stop before I got into that trench. 484 623 4144" I must admit I was a little nervous calling him out of the blue to talk about one of the most highly controversial and heated topics that has ever been discussed on the AZbilliards website--Aiming one sphere to another sphere the same way but at different distances and getting the same consistent result. THE 3 LINES. Notable people with the surname include: David Houle (biologist), evolutionary biologist David Houle (futurist) (born 1948), futurist and author Dave Houle,. This is Low500 at N. . . Hal is no longer with us, but fortunately, he showed his breakthrough systems to many players. 5" corner pocket (less from closer, more from farther away). I personally used it for several years before Hal taught me a version of CTE. way I aim is I am alway shooting cue ball center but I am using the edge of the shaft. Hal Houle told this story to me a good number of years ago and he told it to everyone he talked to on the phone starting back in the 1990's. . It's not, every combination of perception, left or right cut, sweep or pivot direction, etc,,,, will result in the same. Jul 15, 2008 #8 Bval Use The Aiming System That Efren Reyes Uses. So much easier it's mind numbing. As most of you know, Hal was known for being devious in explaining CTE and that created a lot of misunderstanding about it. There are 3 court records for "Paul Houle" in "Broward County". . How it's advertised is as an objective aiming system with zero feel or subconscious involvement. – Hal Houle’s 3-angle system – Hit-A-Million-Balls (HAMB) aiming system – How to Aim Pool Shots (HAPS) – limited lines or alignments of aim – midpoint parallel-shift aiming system – 90/90 pivot-based aiming system – parallel-lines systems – Perfect Aim – pivot-based system issues – Pro One – shaft-edge aiming system The common fractional-ball aiming system, sometimes referred to as Hal Houle’s 3-angle system. This includes; caroms, single rail banks, double rail banks, 1, 2, 3, and 4 rail banks, and double kiss banks. . Both are deadly ways to pocket balls, contrary to what has been claimed by a small group for 25 years on multiple pool forums but have found a home on this forum since 2003. He has a beautiful 4 1/2 x 9 Diamond table and light. Hals's version started with an "inside cue tip" placement on the CB aiming to the same three spots on the OB as this guy and then pivoting back to center. As per Hal Houle, CTE DOES NOT work with the vision center directly over the actual shot line, or NISL as Stan describes it. . All of which are very interesting and Ive been mixing and matching depending on the shot but for easy shots, I still use the ghostball system. Whether it be Hal Houle’s Center-to-Edge, Stan Shuffett’s Pro1 or Ron Vitello’s 90/90, offset and pivot systems afford players objective and repeatable methods of ball-pocketing (without the guesswork of ghost ball or other traditional methods. By: Search Advanced search…However, Hal Houle (there's that name again) also created a STICK AIMING SYSTEM that had nothing to do with CENTERS and EDGES. Search titles only. . Ask The InstructorI'm pretty sure he was from the Albuquerque neck of the woods. There were so many that were disrespectful and that is one if the things I despise about AZB. Ron Vitello also teaches one that is dubbed 90/90 which is also incredibly precise and accurate. . . He retired from Ottawa Hills Memorial Park after over 20 years as an "Underground Condominium Salesman. My name is Hal Houle. JB CASES 21 videos 45,079 views Last updated on Mar 16, 2021 Play all Shuffle 1 0:27 DrDaves-Test JB CASES • 15K views • 13 years ago 2 9:20 Why Ghost. . . Forum omniscient ones scoffed, belittled, and beat it into the ground mainly. I hope it does not relate to fraction aiming because I don't feel comfortable with that. It has NO 7 fractions along the face of the OB. To zero in on A or C, I simply line up the edge of the cueball to B first, as this is a very. . Condolences to his wife and family. If you can run all 15, more power to you. Jul 21, 2008. M is not exclusive but normally taught by SPF Instructors. Basically the system is about a limited number of aiming points Full Ball hit 3/4 Ball hit (approx 15 degrees) 1/2 Ball hit (approx 30 degrees) 1/4 Ball hit (approx 45 degrees) And the Thin Hit Do a search for Hal Houle for. Teach professionals, very advanced players, and road money players. It has NEVER been enforced on those members who have free reign to say whatever they want negatively or disparagingly about Hal Houle, Stan Shuffett, CTE, Shishkabob, and students and usersJUST FINISHED reading mosconis autobiography for the tenth time. Was great to hear his stories. . Would you, Mike Howerton, head honcho of AZ Billiards and of sound body and mind (most of the time). Using your attacks to further the reach of CTE is merely a way to turn your evil. side (plus "real thin") no matter how you do it. A. A. that includes reyes, souquet, archer, ortman, bustamante, and on and on. Glad you had a chance to see a real pool room. It is looked upon as extrordinary, but it is a duplicate. The 15 - 30 - and 45. Conversely I have shown aiming systems to some good players and had them give me a confused look and decide that they didn't want to bother with it EVEN IF they agreed that it might help them. ) CTE originated from Hal Houle. They were posted in 2017 and remain today. A key factor in CTE is that the shooter learns to largely disengage his conscious mind from the aiming process. Was great to hear his stories. Hal Houle showed this to me and it worked. . Problem is, he had to stand there and correct me on every shot because I just didn't get it. Silver Member. I also reviewed newspaper clippings from The New York Times, and I've drawn a. . The pro's answer would be 4 + 0 = 4. I will use every comment by you that fits that goal and there are many. Instruction & Ask the pros. 82 m (5 ft 11 + 1 ⁄ 2 in) Weight: 72 kg (159 lb; 11 st 5 lb) Team information; Current team:. Search titles only. CTE is a pre-shot routine that involves the use of the line from the center of the cue ball through the outside edge of the object ball (from the intended pocket. S. . . He said Hal Houle wants to meet you today. Hugo Houle: Born 27 September 1990 (age 33) Sainte-Perpétue, Canada: Height: 1. The National Billiard Academy is the only school authorized to teach the specialized Aiming Systems of Hal Houle. gentlemen - upside down glasses are the NUTS. In fact, a "visual" as you describe (or as Hal described) in pool is not. Then after I got home. . To Hal Houle for seeking me out in Denver and introducing me to aiming systems. B. Most would say 2 + 2 = 4, others 1 + 3 = 4, 3 + 1 = 4 or 1. To read the pool playing tutorial for the Hal Houle Point and Pivot System, click the link to go on to the full pool playing tips article. By: Search Advanced search…Search titles only. i teach professional aiming systems. Jan 20, 2013 #63 Patrick Johnson said:I will be at Q-masters on the final Saturday of the US Open. Houle is a surname. Yes. And I listened. The step by step process will be revealed. left side of shaft to right left and right side of the shaft to go right. I think asking someone about contact points would be like asking them the answer to x + y = 4. But he said he understood the concept, so I gave him the okay. cte doubters and all the other ways to make a ball WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE to. As I stated in another post, Hal Houle had over 20 other aiming systems beside CTE. But these words already existed and weren't redefined or coined. We identified 117 records related to "Paul Houle" in the state of Florida. Eventually, I became his successor. I think Hal was largely correct in that assessment. I was a pretty good friend to Hal for over 20 years. Stan and Landon Shuffett took an interest in Hal's CTE and they both met and studied with Hal. Includes; pocketing, caroms, single rail banks, double rail banks, 2, 3, and 4 rail banks, and double. . If there were 10. Sep 18, 2014. and others who teach these things their due. REP to you dave. So the non-users consider that false advertisement. I don't understand half of Spidey's post but I compeletly understand what he means. Perfect Aim, CTE, TOI, Hal Houle's systems come to mind. Q. and Santos. If the dimensions are other than 2x1, logically, then CTE will no longer work. G. . I have been using it for a few years with very good results. Hal Houle developed over 20 aiming systems that had nothing to do with contact points or fractions. This is just what I've heard. If you want to learn more about these and other -shot aiming systems, seecut the . I am using the ORIGINAL HAL HOULE SYSTEM. There is no way in this universe that Hal Houle, Stan Shuffett and the countless other instructors teaching objective aiming methods created non-working purely psychological mind tricks just to mess with your sense of order. I wasn't bugged by the endless arguments on RSB 14 years ago over aiming, I simply skipped them. I think Hal's latest way of describing it, the "3-point" version where. That's going to change. Some people do it automatically while others spend hours and many aiming systems trying to find it. . If you want to learn more about these and other -shot aiming systems, seecut the . He started all of his destruction of aiming systems, Hal Houle, CTE, etc. . #2. I personally used it for several years before Hal taught me a version of CTE. Anyone who's watched me, talked to me on these boards, etc. View more. Anybody know when that will be?I believe it's correct to say you don't have to "consciously" know where the pocket is, but unconsciously you do. . Just reading the 1st chapter brings back so many memories of my teachings with Hal. I don't care if I change your mind. Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool than I will ever know. But, sorry to disappoint because IT DOES WORK. Tom Simpson was 20 years younger than Hal. What the old gent said to me is pretty much what Terry is saying in his video. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. And I would have continued to skip them if Hal Houle hadn't asked me to meet him in Denver and graciously donated some of his time to teach me some of methods. By: Search Advanced search…HEY GUYS MY 2 CENTS the CTE devotees we know who you are EVERYONE ELSE. Silver Member. . M is a visual aiming method. cookie man AzB Silver Member. By: Search Advanced search…Some of the personalities go back 15 years or more where we had the same disagreements about Hal Houle's "3 angles" fractional system on RSB. If there is one shot i really do not miss, regardless of pressure, it is the long straight ins. Guess the year. I personally enjoyed his stories of his own personal life the most and called him many times just to. Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool. Stan's overall knowledge and understanding of pool is off the charts. If anyone knows what it is supposed to be, then I. Silver Member. When these methods are used the feel in aiming is reduced to almost zero. ) CTE originated from Hal Houle. See this image: The pivot point is the pink dot on the cue. To me, the bold and red highlighted parts seem to indicate that Hal did not believe that the system described was able to directly pocket all balls on the table. & Mrs. Both are deadly ways to pocket balls, contrary to what has been claimed by a small. JoeyInCali Maker of. S. ROTFLMAO!! I can see all members of the Fab5 clicking on this thread hoping I saw the light like they have. I'm still confused on the exact steps of stepping the cueball. Both of these men have spent a lot of time figuring out alternative ways to line up to the shot. 1/4, 1/2, center and maybe edge to edge. It is looked upon as extrordinary, but it is a duplicate. on RSB. Search titles only. Hal Houle said that there are only 3 angles that are important. I use Hal Houle's "3 aim line" method, which I use CTE as a double check to see if I'm aligned right. go! the ones i seen confused me, im making big leaps in my pool game this yr, so why not take it further if i can and actually learn something lolI thought I'd throw out a little check I use to very accurately find A or C on the OB, especially the thin ones. Inventor: Elephant Practice Balls and Beautiful Balls ® (used on ESPN) Inventor: The Stroke Groover®Search titles only. . Just for you, here is my answers to your queries. hang in. I reside in Russia and. I found a post from 2009 from someone who said Hal Houle told them the guy was an awesome player from out of Cochrans, another was the Ripleys Believe it or not post in one of Bob Byrnes books about the 180 ball run. Both of these men are right. Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool than I will ever know. Yeah, I know - I know, if Hal did something it MUST be bogus and witchcraft. He was born on November 4, 1931 in Darby, Pennsylvania. These were all results of his own thought experiments and practical applications on the table. Search titles only. Please take a look and let me know if you can think of any important terms or phrases not included. He also enjoyed keeping tabs on the various players and the members of AzBilliards. Instruction & Ask the pros. In another pool forum they have discussed for at least thirty pages of threads, Hal Houle's aiming system. instructors do not have a clue about aiming systems. (since we have nothing but the edge of the object. Hal Houle was a great man that changed the way I see the game of pool. ” Hal Houle once said that the top 200 players in the world used his aiming system. . Hal Houle. IT WAS ILLOGICAL AND STILL IS TO MANY As a young man Hal Houle traveled around the country with Greenleaf as they made their way through one pool room after another with Hal doing his best to keep Greenleaf off the booze until they at least. Began instructing pool in 1945. That's one reason I can't stand the really shitty comments denigrating them and their students. In my opinion if you HONESTLY wanted to learn CTE then. Nothing any more complicated than those 3 lines. Nov 12, 2019 - Answers to frequently-asked questions about Hal Houle's 3-angle aiming system. . If you look at most shots they can be grouped into one of these three angles in a general sense. The Sailor's aiming system, which I detail in my book, is to me the only accurate way to aim at a pool ball. I've shot pool for a good portion of my life but never took it to the next level. He ran with Jimmy Moore, I think. Hugo Houle (born 1990-09-27 in Sainte-Perpétue) is a professional road racing cyclist from Canada, currently riding for Israel - Premier Tech. There are some DVDs on the subject. Once you become trained to see nothing but those 3 lines and completely eliminate CONTACT POINTS strung across the OB and CB to link. Align the the cue about 1/2 tip off center from the cue ball. showed me his swivel system (similar to Hal's system), light aiming system and shadow aiming. Stan's previous occupation was that of a teacher and he is a natural at teaching pool. To Freddie Agnir and others for spending time on the table showing what you learned from Hal and being willing to help. My name is Hal Houle. (Houle's memory is somewhat hazy on the point. Apparently he had many aiming systems. At the end of the day Aiming Systems are being proven to work and accepted by more and more people. . He was always experimenting with aiming systems and knowledge he acquired over the years from. you have nothing to lose. Jan 20, 2013 #63 Patrick Johnson said:Some (mostly undercooked) food for thought about aiming system benefits for everybody. . I've met Hal a few times. add another ball that can be used with. Hal Houle has taught a lot of people CTE and one of the people who took it a lot more seriously than the rest of the people is a guy named Stan Shuffett. this particular HAL HOULE aiming system. you read his posts and you know he doesn't have a clear understanding about these pivot systems and he keeps putting his foot in his mouth. These guys want to act like it's supposed to be some magical event that Stan claims makes the ball. good evening America. Daughter of the late Anton and Elizabeth Heinsen. I like. . Search titles only. I didnt locate the photo until the first editions were already printed. way I aim is I am alway shooting cue ball center but I am using the edge of the shaft. First he told me to forget. it's magic. Obviously CTE was one of them and Shiskabob was another. I am aiming base on the hal houle system but using the edge of shaft to aiming point. These techniques are all referred to as “offset and pivot” systems. Maybe it was already a given between us and we worked on other things. . "3-point" or "ball fractions" system. To Dave Segal for being so vocal about what. My loss for sure. Stan Shuffett refined it and it is called "CTE Pro One". Silver Member. Takes his three angles and makes aiming easier to teach. Your mind’s eye can easily perceive each of the 500 shots referenced above as ‘one’. He was born on November 4, 1931 in Darby, Pennsylvania. go! the ones i seen confused me, im making big leaps in my pool game this yr, so why not take it further if i can and actually learn something lolSearch titles only. Thanks for taking the time to post, Dr. I'm told that Hal Houle recognises this and recommends the adjustment method diagrammed and described below. I will use every comment by you that fits that goal and there are many. Also let me know if you disagree with any of the existing. It can't get any more center pocket than that. I've always been eager to hear anything that Stan had to say, especially when it comes to pool. "Hal" Houle, age 82, passed away on May 29, 2014. As has been discussed from time to time (a euphemism for ad nauseam), fractional aiming systems would appear to require an adjustment method for shots that don't fall exactly into the categories of half-ball hit (center-to-edge) or the other general aim guides. Daughter of the late Anton and Elizabeth Heinsen. The common fractional-ball aiming system, sometimes referred to as Hal Houle’s 3-angle system. For those who think he's guilty of false advertising and claims, you're. 23 years ago Hal Houle threw out a claim and teaser on an early internet group called. And let us not forget about the written rules laid out my Mike in the Aiming Forum. If the graph below actually represents the variety of. August 1, 2023. Hal Houle Point and Pivot System by Billiards Forum Editor's Desk | Sep 30, 2014 | Aiming and Execution Tutorials for Billiards New Post - Hal Houle Point and Pivot SystemA new post has been published titled "Hal Houle Point and Pivot System". this is what makes systems work is the. His name has been on and off fourms for years. HOULEHarold G. I've been trying to do this exact way how Stan Shuffett explained in his video which I don't have anymore. 5 = 4. Basic aiming systems Wondering if anyone has a story involving Hal Mix (RIP). There is no one on the planet who does not use an aiming system - all pool players started out using a system. The quality was amazing and I can’t wait to take pics in these two piece sets. Hal was a veteran of the U. It is absolutely connected. . A few years ago I was working on an aiming system of my own design (as far as I know this is my own design, I may have been inspired by something I've seen, but I don't think so). . . I commented that, from my recollection, Hal Houle was a decent guy and had always been forthcoming in our prior discussions. We spent the morning working on some stroke, stance and footwork tweaks along with Stan sharing a few of his favorite drills. 5 years ago. I watched a great match between Cowboy Jimmy Moore and Wimpy Luther Lassiter that was on Classic ESPN the other day. The man genuinely wanted to share his knowledge with as many people as he could and did it for free. Began instructing pool in 1945. Aiming ConversationHal Houle (rhymes with pool) gave his knowledge free of charge and welcomed anyone to call him at any time to learn more about his aiming systems. I'll never be a good player, but I try all the time to improve. Share your videos with friends, family, and the world Hal Houle would have been so very proud, and I myself am proud for you and Hal. . Hal Houle's Aiming Cyrus Jackson 6 videos 165 views Last updated on Jan 28, 2022 Play all Shuffle 1 2:02 1 Position, 10 Shots Sean Higgins • 5. I believe Fez, Jimmy, and Ralph Greenleaf, were partners. RecSportBilliards in 1996. Was great to hear his stories. Recognizing those. Just reading the 1st chapter brings back so many memories of my teachings with Hal. By: Search Advanced search…That obviously changes the point of contact along the NISL, which in turn results in a different angle after contact. 5 + 2. . S. . By: Search Advanced search…Search titles only. ”Hal Houle Point and Pivot System by Billiards Forum Editor's Desk | Sep 30, 2014 | Aiming and Execution Tutorials for Billiards New Post - Hal Houle Point and Pivot. By: Search Advanced search…Instruction & Ask the pros. . A lot of my terminology might be a little outdated but once you lock in your visuals, what is the precise order of. I don't usually visit or participate in forums other than the "Mail Forum," and maybe others are the same way. I doubt that Stan's defining and refining will change any of that no matter how exact CTE/Pro One is. . The first time started 26 years ago with Hal Houle and then those who followed. Cherished mother of. I think asking someone about contact points would be like asking them the answer to x + y = 4. They could care less about 90/90 or the SEE System. ) A: I studied aiming systems under Hal Houle, who invented many aiming system variants. You came to aiming systems because of all the discussion and development of systems that Hal developed. Too many things didn't make sense to me so I moved on. If this is true, there must be something VERY, VERY POSITIVE (AND SOUND) to. Regardless of whether you like, love or hate the use of the tip for that purpose. Hal was an eccentric guy who would call you by phone while you were at a table and talk you through his various methods of using CTE while also regaling you of stories about his buddy Ralph Greenleaf. When I learned this from Hal over a decade ago, I started experimenting with a center of the CB placement pivoting to. That "7 fractions" stuff is total BALONEY and I have no idea where that got pulled out of. i do not charge you for anything, it is simple enough that i can teach you over the phone. S. I'm a completely new player. Harold Houle, now 85, said the time he spent with Greenleaf came during the late 1940s, or possibly in 1950. The Hal Houle Point and Pivot system is a billiard aiming system that uses the geometry, layout, and design of a pool table, as well as some common assumptions to help you determine the appropriate spot on the object ball to strike with the cue ball. Once he showed me which bulb and where on the object ball, it magically went in the hole. There is a link for an interview with Jimmy and Rick Owens, his relative, just before he passed. #1. I don't have the numbers anymore, as they were in a notebook I can. He was always experimenting with aiming systems and knowledge he acquired over the years from. Several thousand players have been trained and over 200 new instructors produced since 1995 through the National Billiard Academy. And in fact I do credit Hal Houle and Stan and everyone working on objective aiming for keeping me interested in playing. Your mind’s eye can easily perceive each of the 500 shots referenced above as ‘one’. By: Search Advanced search…23 years ago Hal Houle threw out a claim and teaser on an early internet group called Rec. 12,478. Hal and CTE have been hotly debated for many years. and I get all da rolls. The Sport Palace was a unique place for sure. . The blue line is the initial line up method that you would manually have come to with just eying the shot. If you would like a copy, email me at The answers I received, from Houle followers, defied the laws of geometry and, as such, were absurd. But in my opinion if it wasn't for Hal there wouldn't be CTE. A. Aiming ConversationThe time you spent with me practicing in your booth at the tournament was impressionable for me. Very sorry to hear about Hal Houle's passing.